1. The Western is "Once Upon a Time in the West", the first line was spoken by Jason Robards, Jr. and the reply by Charles Bronson.

2. I don't think those who advocate voting as a means of self-defense are (in principle) losing anything by this. I'm thinking most particularly of L. Neil Smith, who is one person I couldn't imagine calling unprincipled or immoral ever. It's those who have said "Don't vote. EVER!" or something to that effect with digital teeth gnashing that have turned their back on something that was, at some point, important to them. It's tragic...

Perhaps a lighter note is in order as I close this reply;

http://www.strike-the-root.com/71/alston/alston3.html -- Not exactly on point, but very funny.