I like to think of myself as a frank Zero Aggression Principle Purist Absolutely, but I'm afraid people won't take me seriously. ;)

Words have meaning, but the meaning gets diluted, even the word you prefer. I mean, when someone like George W. can get away with describing himself as "pro-freedom," is that really such a great word? I've taken to using "statist" versus "individualist," but then I have to take time to explain what those words mean.

I'm confused by Tuma's statement, but maybe I've missed something about the 21st century. Isn't a libertarian (small l) someone who stands for liberty? And if then you're asked "yeah, but what does liberty mean in the 21st century," then someone's just trying to pick a fight, methinks.

Sure, the Capital-L Libertarians have abandoned the concept, but that's just a political party. There have always been democrats and socialist Democrats, just as there have been republicans and totalitarian Republicans. Doesn't make the words wrong, IMHO, it's the folks claiming the words for themselves who are wrong.