Relationships are ever-shifting things, and although I think most adults know this it can still come as a surprise when a relationship that was considered steady comes undone.
Part of my recent bout of quietness here stems from various relationships being in a fairly obvious state of flux. Some of those changes are obviously to the good; others aren’t, and a couple others are being deliberately tended, to see how they might grow. An online acquaintance from some years ago has recently popped back into my life, and in so doing has got my brain buzzing with ideas and contexts I’ve not considered much, if at all. A major theme in our explorations is relationships. I expect to say much more on that here as the conversations spool out, but for now I’ll toss out this little thought–grenade: he is, without deliberately trying to (so it appears to me), slowly persuading me that the family metaphor is not the best one for the pro-freedom community. Sorry, Kirsten.
Part of the reason is because so many of us (myself included more frequently than I care to consider) seem to let our egos do too much of the driving. How that plays out can vary, of course; we’ve all probably encountered at least one would–be freedom guru who insists that to be truly free we must follow his plan in its entirety—and his plan includes such tangentials as what soap to use, and what food to eat and in what quantity or ratios. More common are those of us who so want to be right, or be liked by a certain group (or maybe even one person), that anything that may carry a whiff of criticism can provoke a sharp response.
Instead of being open to others’ perspectives or ideas that may challenge us, too often we lash out in ridicule or subtle condemnation, instead of asking, “How might he be right about this?” Of course, it could well turn out that he isn’t right, but does it hurt us so much to get into the habit of asking that question and considering its answers? Seems to me if we could accomplish that, we’d make a lot of progress in shifting away from the ego-driving that often takes relationships into blackberry brambles—or worse, off a cliff—and toward more honest, idea– or concept–driven exchanges. In short, the ties of true family hold despite disagreements, despite periods of ego inflation or celebrity. Maybe I’ve fallen in with a more cantankerous lot than is usual, but I haven’t seen a lot of that happening among pro-freedom individuals.
My friend recently shared a quote on friendship that I think worth passing along. It comes from Etienne de la Boetie’s Discourse on Voluntary Servitude:
Friendship is a sacred word, a holy thing; it is never developed except between persons of character, and never takes root except through mutual respect; it flourishes not so much by kindnesses as by sincerity. What makes one friend sure of another is the knowledge of his integrity: as guarantees he has his friend’s fine nature, his honor, and his constancy.
This struck me as true, but not necessarily in keeping with a more American perspective of friendship. I’ve heard it said that we are quicker to label someone a friend, where others could call the relationship “acquaintance”. Anyway, sincerity and constancy are deeply important to me; without them I don’t think I can respect another very much. According to the family stories about me, I’ve never had an abundance of tact ... but I don’t see any value in dissembling. If someone asks me if I like a new haircut, I assume they want an honest opinion. Similarly, if they ask me how I feel about them, I can’t think of anything good that would come from inflating (or deflating) the current situation. That has led to problems sometimes (to put it mildly). But I see honest communication as speaking to sincerity, and more imporantly, to honor. It’s partly from that context that a recent statement at Wirkman Netizen resonated with me:
I worship no one, and never will. I shall continue to believe things that make sense, and question opinions of all stripes. I do not consider this stance heroic or anything. It is just simple intellectual duty. Since no one pays me to lie, or to take positions I might otherwise resist, I have little incentive to be led by anything other than evidence, logic, and my own proclivities . . . and my understanding of evidence, logic, and (perhaps) even my own proclivities.
To which I add, I can’t even worship myself most of the time (my ego can run away with itself, but those flights are usually brief, as the balloon is quickly punctured either by a snolf or my own revealed ineptitude).
No one has all the answers. No such fixed set exists. Each of us has our own set of answers awaiting discovery, but as the equations change throughout our lives, so do the answers. I’ve found others to be an enormously valuable resource for helping me with my set of equations, especially in a context as generally described above. In turn, I’m willing to offer any freedom-loving, liberty-seeking individual my good will, my bluntly-expressed ideas and thoughts and opinions—and my friendship, in an environment of mutual respect and exploration. No leaders wanted, no followers sought.
[Apparently, timely email conversation would not be in the set of things I can offer as a friend. I think I am behind with everyone. My deep apologies; I hope to start digging out this weekend, after tending to some Salon work—but we have a weekend guest arriving today and I don’t know how that will affect my schedule.]












Behind
Apparently, timely email conversation would not be in the set of things I can offer as a friend.
hee hee hee! Worry not, snakey sister of mine. While an email from you is a treasure indeed, I have a feeling that detracting from your experiencing real life is not something that anybody who respects you has any desire to do.
When you find yourself awake, and bored, and desiring the company of a furry canid, I am completely and totally at your disposal. In the meantime, I'll keep reading, and writing, and smiling at your observations from my little den.
Never bored, always desirous
I honestly cannot remember the last time I was bored; there is simply too much to see, to do, to experience, to think! That said, I am highly desirous of your company, as well as others who I can only (or most easily) connect with online ... that’s one reason why I dislike being so behind on email.
Thanks for bounding in and sharing your smile with us!
If there is one thing I do
If there is one thing I do well, it is bound. Oh, and howling. I do that pretty well too.
I was looking around on your site yesterday, and look at that! Mama Liberty is here! I'm a big fan of hers over at TMM. I don't know any of your other conspirators, but I look forward to reading them anyhow. This blog is really quite a good one. Lots of stuff for me to gnaw on, and dig into.
*hug*
Hope your weekend is rejuvinating your snakey soul.
Howdy, wolfsister!
You just never know where this crazy lady will show up. LOL
*grins*
Hey Mama! Y'know, I just HAVE to say this, because I think it's adorable. Whenever I think of you, and I think this is because of your name, I ALWAYS immediately think of the mama owl from Bambi. Her name was Big Mama. Not implying *anything* about your size. I have no idea what size you are. For whatever reason, I picture you as an owl. :)
Here (two pictures of big mama):
Big Mama #1
Big Mama #2
It's great to see & talk with you again! I very much look forward to reading your blog!
Interesting contrast! :)
The first link went to a page with Tinkerbell on top... Don't I wish!! And not just because she's magic. :)
The second one was certainly shaped a lot like me, and I'm flattered because the owl is one of my special totems...
I'm a morning person, however, so the analogy breaks down pretty quickly.
So good to have you here! I look forward to lively discussions.
Mama and I ...
We go way back. I think some of the back story was spooled out in my interview of her, just in case you’ve not seen it.
The conspirators are a diverse lot, which is part of their charm, in my view. Too quiet, though.
Thanks; I hope you do find some useful things here. Although I seem unable to completely avoid ranting about the USSA fedgov and its idiocies, the focus here is primarily on freedom at the individual level. If that isn’t your cuppa coffee, the search tool works moderately well, and all the content categories are clickable so you can focus on topics of most interest to you. I hope you are a regular particiant in our conversation—much as your busyness allows, of course.
Thanks! I am slowly shedding some stresses, which is a very good thing. Still much to accomplish, and we are FAPped again, so today may be more rejuvenating than productive ... but I could live with that. Hope you and the polar bear are having a nice weekend.
The gift of FAP
FAP is a gift of humbleness from the gods to remind us of what life was like back in the deep dark ages of about ten years ago... and very well may soon be like again. Consider it a gift. And also think of the gift the government is giving us this February when all regular television will disappear. Just THINK of all the reading I can get done when BOTH are gone!
- NonE
(FAP- Fair Access Policy of Hughes Network Systems)
I had NOT read that
I had NOT read that interview! How interesting! I think Mama told me about some of the stuff she was involved in (I know she told me about Free State Wyoming), but I had no clue about the Liberty Round Table! Those are neat places!
I have already found some useful things here. Besides being very, very interested in freedom at the individual level (and working very hard to understand just exactly what that means for me and those around me), I am interested in what makes me and my relationships tick on a psychological level. I've already read, and taken to heart, a few essays of yours on the subject. If you hadn't already noticed, my implementation of such ideas has entirely changed my manner of relating to some people on the forum that you and I share. And in so doing, it has also changed the manner in which they relate to me, and the rest of the forum. Which lowers my stress level quite a bit, and has upped the level of respect we're *all* showing each other over there. Every little bit counts, I guess.
Oh, we most definitely are; thank you for inviting us to do so *wolfish snuggles, and tail wagging* It's finally cooled down here, from a mean 90-95 degrees that it has been for the last week or so, to a very nice 65-70. And it's raining on and off. We're enjoying the heck out of that rain, and the thunderstorms that inevitably come with it. The desert smells incredible in the rain, and the lightning show last night was very, very romantic. :D
I knew
I knew there was a reason that I wanted to be a part of this little world. You speak to the issues which speak to me. (And I hope you understood that my post about NEVER EVER admitting you are wrong was in total sarcastic juxtaposition with my stance on life and living.)
- NonE
Of course.
I’m very glad—and honored—that you’re here. Even with my little direct contact with you, your sarcasm was easily spotted.
Family? Better!
In some ways the "freedom community" is better than a family. It is formed voluntarily. I can't choose my biological family, but I can certainly choose who I associate with and listen to among the Fireflies.
I hope I don't ever seem to be one of those people who insists that everyone do it my way. "My way" has a way of changing depending upon the situation or who I am speaking to anyway. One size does NOT fit all.
I usually see myself as an idiot. I have my (rather strong) opinions, and I may question people who have different ones, but as long as I see them moving toward freedom, I try not to be too harsh.
The only thing that really upsets me is seeing self-proclaimed liberty-lovers making an exception for their favorite government function or program. Then I speak up loudly. I may even write them off, at least when it comes to that particular area.
Fireflies?!
WTF does a glowy-bottomed insect have to do with freedom? (Or are you a big Uriah Heep fan?)
I’ll have more to say on the subject of relationships among those who value freedom soon, and I expect I’ll address some of your other points then too. For now, I need to step away from the computer and see to my children.
Sorry
It's a holdover from the Claire Files.
Too late.
Speaking of which, I think she may have gotten it backwards. She said that it's too early to shoot the bastards... it may be too late.
- NonE
addendum:
If someone has you down and is starting to duct-tape your ankles together, do you want to wait until you are completely hog-tied before deciding that perhaps this is not looking good?
So it means what, exactly?
Little lights of freedom glowing here and there? (Sorry, but this strikes me as pretty silly. I am probably missing a lot of backstory.)
I didn't mean to derail anything....
It was something that Claire had suggested calling "freedom outlaws"; based upon the TV show "Firefly". It sounded good to me. I even designed a little logo around the idea:
(edited by NonE to display the image)
Who are you and what have you done with Sunni?
You must be indeed distracted lately not to recognize a Firefly reference, m'friend.
Mayhaps, but I think not.
Thanks for the further explanation, Kent. I do recall seeing a smaller version of that image on your web site ... maybe elsewhere, too.
Aye, that I am, my friend. However, until this very moment I had never grokked why the title of the show was “spent”, if you will, on such a minor detail. Color me obtuse yet again.
And even though I now see the connection, the label still seems silly on a fundamental level. Yes, I see the metaphor, but it is so thin as to be easily displaced by the insect context in my mind. “Browncoat” would’ve been a much more effective nickname in my opinion. Which is worth exactly what everyone has paid to view it. :)
Browncoat
But a picture of a brown coat would not have been as cute.
That depends.
You mean to say that out of River, Kaylee, Zoe, and Inarra, not one of them would be cuter in a brown coat than a glowy-assed bug? On the other side of the aisle, so to speak, I’d sure have a hard time narrowing down the options.
(I do understand the difficulties ... just funnin’ with ya a bit.)
Kaylee
I'd take Kaylee in or out of a browncoat. Well, and Zoe... but she scares me a little. I couldn't afford Inara. And River is crazier than me. That would be a bad combination. I think......
I'd be willing to give 'em all a try. Wait... what were we talking about?
Fireflies
Oh, I thought it was reference to the Firefly TV show, later Serenity...
Don't you have a reference to the series on your blog?
Yes
In a round-about sorta way. I do like the show, although I hadn't seen it yet when Claire suggested the name.
Indeed.
I find this to be true of humanity in general. I just read a wonderful piece by Glen Allport wherein he blasts the "elites" for all of the damage they've done, not recognizing (I think - I can't speak for him, of course) that it is most of humanity who will fudge their ethics a tad for just a bit of an advantage, and that only the "elite" are the ones who are networked and slimy enough to make it REALLY pay off. But all of us who are willing to fudge our ethics a bit here and there are just as guilty as the worst offender. Maybe more so, as the worst offender is frequently at least honest enough to stand up and crow about his evil.
- NonE
Good point...
You've touched on a thought here that's been on my mind more than a few times lately (and there's a story in there, somewhere)...given the 'opportunity', how different would most people be to the 'elite' you refer to? I think that, as you infer, some have just been a little luckier (or, more clever in their deviousness)...
Write it!
Go ahead and write it, Shaun, it ain't gonna write itself! ;-)
- NonE
I always get a chuckle out
I always get a chuckle out of the way so many people throw the word "friend" around so easily (I remember us talking a bit about this a while back, too)... Especially since most of my sincere friendships have been formed with people I hadn't (and, in a few unfortunate cases [and one *spectacularly* unfortunate case... I still kick myself occasionally for screwing up the opportunity when you were down for FreedomFest :) ], *still* haven't) met in person.
Come to think of it, I consider you one of my closest friends (the values I consider important make it difficult to assign such a level of trust to anyone outside my family [and a few within my family, when it comes right down to it]; I'm so grateful for the technology that made it possible for me to "meet" people like you and Kirsten and the Wolfgirl :D ), and while we've "known" each other for -- what, 6 or 7 years? -- we still haven't managed to get together in real life! I swear to remedy that soon...
All of which is a roundabout way (I hope my habitual parentheses don't make anyone dizzy) of saying: "Well said, Sunni". :P The nature of friendship is one of those things I constantly find myself contemplating; I always appreciate your thoughts on relationships.
--J
PS. One thing you can take comfort in... You certainly haven't got a monopoly on falling behind on correspondence. :D
the values I consider
Awww, Jac, you're gonna make me all misty eyed. {{HUG}} I'm pretty darned fond of you too, kid.
Dizzy non-monopolies
And here I thought I had a monopoly on parentheticals—but you make me look like an amateur at it! ;)
Reciprocity is a nice thing in such circumstances; and yes, let’s remedy that situation ASAP. Shall the mint julep truffles travel to you; or shall you travel to the mint julep truffles?